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Όντως βάσει αυτών δεν ειναι σε καλή κατάσταση ανεξαρτητα απο τα υπολοιπα. και ισως το command_timeout κανει αργο το συστημα?

Μεγαλη διχογνωμία, τελικα ειναι χαλια ο δίσκος η όχι;

Επειδη προκειται για ενα παλιο laptop αναγκαστικά θα παω σε αντικατασταση του και οχι σε αντικατασταση δισκου.

αλήθεια συμφέρει να αλλάξουμε δισκο σε ένα λαπτοπ ηλικίας 8 ετών; Ποια ειναι η αποψη σας;

Δεν υπάρχει διχογνωμία, δεν είχα προσέξει κάτι στην αναφορά του δίσκου(το ειδε ο αντμιν ομως).
Όσο αφορά για την αντικατάσταση, εξαρτάται, αν ειναι καλομεταχειρισμένο και καθαρο τοτε ειναι οκ να σωθείς με 120 ευρώ με ενα δισκο ssd, στο κάτω κάτω αν τα φτύσει τελικά παίρνεις ενα νέο laptop και βάζεις εκεί το δίσκο αυτό (και κρατας το 2ο για μια εξατομικευμένη εγκατάσταση αν το μελλοντικο χωραει 2 δισκους εστω τον ενα με caddy στη θεση του dvd).

Οκ ευχαριστω και τους 2 για την πολυτιμη βοηθεια, τουλαχιστον τωρα ξερω το προβλημα.

Το προβλημα μου ειναι περιπλοκο καθοσον εχω σε αυτο το laptop dual boot me windows Vista (χωρις CD) . Δεν εχω ιδιαιτερες απαιτήσεις απο τα windows απλα τα χρειαζομαι να υπαρχουν μια στο τοσο για κατι ειδικο.

Αν λοιπον παω σε αγορά δισκου τοτε θα πρέπει να αγοράσω και τα windows 7 και εχω αποκτήσει μια αποστροφη στο να πληρώσω λογισμικό windows

Σκεφτηκα την κλωνοποιηση του συστήματος, διαθετω και ενα εξωτερικο δισκο αν χρειαστει. Βρηκα αυτο εδω το θέμα https://forum.ubuntu-gr.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=33088 αλλα απο οτι καταλαβα απο τις απαντησεις δυσκολο το εγχειρημα.

παιδια καλησπερα εχω προβλημα με τν σκληρο δισκο για δειτε λιγο εδω κ πειτε μου υπαρχει περιπτωση να καταφερω να παρω τα αρχεια μου?

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smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-4.4.0-31-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Hitachi/HGST Travelstar 5K750
Device Model:     Hitachi HTS547550A9E384
Serial Number:    J21D0052GAJSRR
LU WWN Device Id: 5 000cca 642c4caa5
Firmware Version: JE3OA60A
User Capacity:    500.107.862.016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 6
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is:    Mon Mar 26 14:01:35 2018 UTC
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED!
Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA.
See vendor-specific Attribute list for failed Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)   Offline data collection activity
               was never started.
               Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      ( 121)   The previous self-test completed having
               the read element of the test failed.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:       (   45) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:           (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
               Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
               Suspend Offline collection upon new
               command.
               Offline surface scan supported.
               Self-test supported.
               No Conveyance Self-test supported.
               Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)   Saves SMART data before entering
               power-saving mode.
               Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)   Error logging supported.
               General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:     ( 147) minutes.
SCT capabilities:           (0x003d)   SCT Status supported.
               SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
               SCT Feature Control supported.
               SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000b   092   092   062    Pre-fail  Always       -       1900563
  2 Throughput_Performance  0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0007   208   208   033    Pre-fail  Always       -       1
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0012   093   093   000    Old_age   Always       -       11326
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   001   001   005    Pre-fail  Always   FAILING_NOW 0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000b   099   099   067    Pre-fail  Always       -       65536
  8 Seek_Time_Performance   0x0005   100   100   040    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0012   054   054   000    Old_age   Always       -       20301
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   060    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   096   096   000    Old_age   Always       -       6482
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x000a   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       131073
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       171
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0012   097   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       34272
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0002   214   214   000    Old_age   Always       -       28 (Min/Max 7/52)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   097   097   000    Old_age   Always       -       284
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0022   001   001   000    Old_age   Always       -       31088
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0008   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x000a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
223 Load_Retry_Count        0x000a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 21347 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
   CR = Command Register [HEX]
   FR = Features Register [HEX]
   SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
   SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
   CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
   CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
   DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
   DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
   ER = Error register [HEX]
   ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 21347 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 20301 hours (845 days + 21 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 d0 4b fb 07  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x07fb4bd0 = 133909456

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 08 60 d0 4b fb 40 00      00:04:52.071  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 58 c8 4b fb 40 00      00:04:52.071  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 50 c0 4b fb 40 00      00:04:52.071  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 48 b8 4b fb 40 00      00:04:52.070  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 08 40 b0 4b fb 40 00      00:04:52.070  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 21346 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 20301 hours (845 days + 21 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 50 d0 4b fb 07  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x07fb4bd0 = 133909456

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 80 28 60 87 82 40 00      00:04:48.876  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 20 60 86 82 40 00      00:04:48.876  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 80 18 a0 4b fb 40 00      00:04:48.876  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 10 a0 4a fb 40 00      00:04:48.872  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 00 08 a0 49 fb 40 00      00:04:48.872  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 21345 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 20301 hours (845 days + 21 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 88 cf 42 02  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0242cf88 = 37932936

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 08 70 88 cf 42 40 00      00:04:44.361  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  2f 00 01 10 00 00 e0 00      00:04:44.360  READ LOG EXT
  60 08 68 80 cf 42 40 00      00:04:41.189  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  2f 00 01 10 00 00 e0 00      00:04:41.189  READ LOG EXT
  60 08 60 78 cf 42 40 00      00:04:38.017  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 21344 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 20301 hours (845 days + 21 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 80 cf 42 02  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0242cf80 = 37932928

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 08 68 80 cf 42 40 00      00:04:41.189  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  2f 00 01 10 00 00 e0 00      00:04:41.189  READ LOG EXT
  60 08 60 78 cf 42 40 00      00:04:38.017  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  2f 00 01 10 00 00 e0 00      00:04:38.017  READ LOG EXT
  60 08 58 70 cf 42 40 00      00:04:34.846  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 21343 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 20301 hours (845 days + 21 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  40 51 08 78 cf 42 02  Error: UNC at LBA = 0x0242cf78 = 37932920

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  60 08 60 78 cf 42 40 00      00:04:38.017  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  2f 00 01 10 00 00 e0 00      00:04:38.017  READ LOG EXT
  60 08 58 70 cf 42 40 00      00:04:34.846  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  2f 00 01 10 00 00 e0 00      00:04:34.845  READ LOG EXT
  60 08 50 68 cf 42 40 00      00:04:31.674  READ FPDMA QUEUED

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%     20301         542890792
# 2  Short offline       Aborted by host               90%     20300         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Καλησπερα, για πρωτη φορα ηθελα να δω σε τι κατασταση βρισκεται ο SSD μου μετα απο 8 περιπου μηνες χρησης.

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dimitris@Dimitris:~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
[sudo] password for dimitris:
smartctl 6.5 2016-01-24 r4214 [x86_64-linux-4.13.0-45-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Samsung based SSDs
Device Model:     Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB
Serial Number:    S3R0NF0J830361K
LU WWN Device Id: 5 002538 d4224fe41
Firmware Version: EMT03B6Q
User Capacity:    250.059.350.016 bytes [250 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
Form Factor:      2.5 inches
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ACS-2, ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 3.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Wed Jun 20 12:20:44 2018 EEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00) Offline data collection activity
                                        was never started.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:                (    0) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x53) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        No Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:        (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        ( 133) minutes.
SCT capabilities:              (0x003d) SCT Status supported.
                                        SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                                        SCT Feature Control supported.
                                        SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 1
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       2643
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       1276
177 Wear_Leveling_Count     0x0013   099   099   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       15
179 Used_Rsvd_Blk_Cnt_Tot   0x0013   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
181 Program_Fail_Cnt_Total  0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       0
182 Erase_Fail_Count_Total  0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       0
183 Runtime_Bad_Block       0x0013   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
187 Uncorrectable_Error_Cnt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0032   068   060   000    Old_age   Always       -       32
195 ECC_Error_Rate          0x001a   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
199 CRC_Error_Count         0x003e   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       24
235 POR_Recovery_Count      0x0012   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       296
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   099   099   000    Old_age   Always       -       8875759601

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%       573         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
  255        0    65535  Read_scanning was never started
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

dimitris@Dimitris:~$



Στους SSD σημαντική είναι η τιμή Wear_Leveling_Count σε εσένα είναι καλή 99%.
Αλλά τα πράγματα διαφέρουν αρκετά στους SSD.
Καλό είναι να δεις και ο κατασκευαστής τι δίνει για τις τιμές αυτές στον δίσκο σου πχ kingston
http://media.kingston.com/support/downl ... ribute.pdf

the_eye έγραψε:Στους SSD σημαντική είναι η τιμή Wear_Leveling_Count σε εσένα είναι καλή 99%.

Α ωραια.
Ο δισκος ειναι samsung 850 evo 250gb, θα το κοιταξω ευχαριστω.

Πως βλέπετε το 9ετιας πλέον σκληρό μου;

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root@invisible-Aspire-7736:/tmp/ntoulasd-ubuntu-gr_forum_signature-1781668# sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda
smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [x86_64-linux-4.15.0-29-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Western Digital Scorpio Blue Serial ATA
Device Model:     WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
Serial Number:    WD-WXQ0A99J4715
LU WWN Device Id: 5 0014ee 2039148a1
Firmware Version: 01.01A01
User Capacity:    500.107.862.016 bytes [500 GB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    5400 rpm
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS (minor revision not indicated)
SATA Version is:  SATA 2.6, 3.0 Gb/s
Local Time is:    Mon Jul 30 16:54:48 2018 EEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)   Offline data collection activity
               was never started.
               Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)   The previous self-test routine completed
               without error or no self-test has ever
               been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:       (13200) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:           (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
               Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
               Suspend Offline collection upon new
               command.
               Offline surface scan supported.
               Self-test supported.
               Conveyance Self-test supported.
               Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)   Saves SMART data before entering
               power-saving mode.
               Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)   Error logging supported.
               General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:     ( 154) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:     (   5) minutes.
SCT capabilities:           (0x303f)   SCT Status supported.
               SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
               SCT Feature Control supported.
               SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   200   200   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       5434
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0027   185   174   021    Pre-fail  Always       -       1708
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   092   092   000    Old_age   Always       -       8762
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   200   200   140    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x002e   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   070   070   000    Old_age   Always       -       21929
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0033   100   100   051    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   092   092   000    Old_age   Always       -       8692
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   199   199   000    Old_age   Always       -       1157
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   125   125   000    Old_age   Always       -       225646
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   092   080   000    Old_age   Always       -       55
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0009   100   253   051    Pre-fail  Offline      -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged.  [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

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