Έλεγχος σκληρού δίσκου Hardware

[akounadis]

Τον εξωτερικό δίσκο "SUMSUNG HM500JI" δεν υποστηρίζει smart

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rory@rory-laptop:~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc
smartctl version 5.38 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Device: ST350032 0AS Version:
Device type: disk
Local Time is: Sun Aug 28 13:38:34 2011 EEST
Device does not support SMART

Error Counter logging not supported
Device does not support Self Test logging

...δεν τον έχει στην λίστα που αναφέρει στην υποστήριξη του site.

[the_eye]

Τον εξωτερικό δίσκο

Καμιά φορά στους εξωτερικούς δίσκους, το πρόβλημα στην ανάγνωση του smart είναι στον controler.
Αν μπορούσες να το ανοίξεις και να τον συνδέσεις απ' ευθείας μπορεί να το διάβαζε.

[lucinos]

Πολύ ενδιαφέρον!

Λοιπόν άκου την δική μου ιστορία. Ο σκληρός μου δίσκος πριν λίγο καιρό άρχισε και έκανε χράτσα-χρούτσα. Επειδή αισθάνθηκα ότι είναι στα τελευταία του με τόσα χράτσα-χρούτσα πήγα και αγόρασα από το eshop έναν δεύτερο σκληρό. Στον πρώτο σκληρό είχα windows 7 και ubuntu 10.10, αυτά δεν τα πείραξα, Στον δεύτερο σκληρό εγκατέστησα ubuntu 11.04 το οποίο πηγαίνει μια χαρά. (ο πρώτος σκληρός πολύ χράτσα-χρούτσα και απελπιστικά αργός, απελπισία). Μάλιστα έκανα έτσι την εγκατάσταση ώστε να μην πειράξω καθόλου τον πρώτο σκληρό και η εκκίνηση τού υπολογιστή να γίνεται από τον δεύτερο αν το θέλω (είτε από τον πρώτο). Πήγα τον υπολογιστή στο πλαίσιο (από όπου τον είχα αγοράσει) για ένα διαφορετικό πρόβλημα αλλά τούς είπα ότι έχει πρόβλημα και ο δίσκος (αφού ακόμα είμαι στην εγγύηση) . Στο πλαίσιο μού άλλαξαν μητρική.

Με την αλλαγή τής μητρικής ένα πρόβλημα που έχω με το pulseaudio (το έχω αναφέρει σε αυτό το φόρουμ δυστυχώς κανένας δεν έχει απαντήσει) δυστυχώς παρέμεινε.
Δεν μπορώ πλέον να μπουτάρω από τον δεύτερο σκληρό. (έχει κανείς κάποια πρόταση). Μπουτάρει μια χαρά από τον πρώτο βέβαια αλλά για παράδειγμα όταν ενημερώνεται ο πυρήνας τού 11.04 πρέπει να ενημερώσω το grub μέσω τού 10.10 αλλιώς φυσικά δεν βλέπει τον καινούργιο πυρήνα.
Το πλαίσιο όταν έπαιρνα πίσω τον υπολογιστή τούς ρώτησα αρκετά έντονα για τον σκληρό γιατί επέμειναν ότι τον εξέτασαν και τον βρήκαν άψογο.
Ο πρώτος σκληρός (αυτός με το χράτσα-χρουτσα) από τότε που πήρα πίσω τον υπολογιστή πηγαίνει φυσέκι. Άψογος. καλύτερα από καινούργιος. Στο πλαίσιο επιμένουν ότι δεν κάνανε τίποτα, απλώς τον βρήκαν εντάξει.

Έτρεξα το πρόγραμμα και για τον πρώτο σκληρό:

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smartctl 5.40 2010-07-12 r3124 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 family
Device Model: ST31000528AS
Serial Number: 9VP5H85J
Firmware Version: CC38
User Capacity: 1.000.204.886.016 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
Local Time is: Mon Aug 29 19:06:51 2011 EEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 600) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 178) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x103f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 111 099 006 Pre-fail Always - 39734971
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 095 095 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 702
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 056 053 030 Pre-fail Always - 468199935795
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 090 090 000 Old_age Always - 9232
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 020 Old_age Always - 342
183 Runtime_Bad_Block 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 099 097 000 Old_age Always - 543
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 089 089 000 Old_age Always - 11
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 064 059 045 Old_age Always - 36 (Lifetime Min/Max 30/37)
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 036 041 000 Old_age Always - 36 (0 14 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 024 019 000 Old_age Always - 39734971
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 130360847375239
241 Total_LBAs_Written 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 1161692559
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x0000 100 253 000 Old_age Offline - 3151658660

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



για τον δεύτερο σκληρό:

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smartctl 5.40 2010-07-12 r3124 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: WDC WD5002AALX-00J37A0
Serial Number: WD-WCAYUC829013
Firmware Version: 15.01H15
User Capacity: 500.107.862.016 bytes
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Mon Aug 29 19:08:51 2011 EEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x84) Offline data collection activity
was suspended by an interrupting command from host.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: (8400) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 85) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 5) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x3037) SCT Status supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x002f 200 200 051 Pre-fail Always - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 140 139 021 Pre-fail Always - 3958
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 82
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 200 200 140 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x002e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 098 098 000 Old_age Always - 1956
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
11 Calibration_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 253 000 Old_age Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 72
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 16
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 65
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 104 099 000 Old_age Always - 39
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate 0x0008 200 200 000 Old_age Offline - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
No self-tests have been logged. [To run self-tests, use: smartctl -t]


SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.



Λοιπόν, πια είναι η γνώμη σας;
Ο πρώτος σκληρός φαίνεται να πηγαίνει φυσέκι, και τα νούμερα τουλάχιστον δεν αυξάνουν. Αλλά τουλάχιστον δεν είμαι εντελώς τρελλός.

[the_eye]

Ο πρώτος σου δίσκος είναι προβληματικός.
Το χράτσα χρούτσα που ακούς είναι από το παρακάτω error
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 056 053 030 Pre-fail Always - 468199935795
δεν μπορούν οι κεφαλές να "εστιάσουν" στα δεδομένα και μετακινούνται συνεχώς.

Ο δεύτερος είναι οκ.

[lucinos]

Δεν με προσέχεις. Το χράτσα-χρούτσα το ΑΚΟΥΓΑ. Τώρα πάει φυσέκι. Στο πλαίσιο με βγάλαν τρελλό!

[airmaik]

εχω βαλει στο notebook το lubuntu,και εκανα ενα ελεγχο και μου εβγαλε αυτο

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/9889/201109051310091024x600s.png

μετα δινω στο τερματικο και την εντολη και μου βγαζει αυτό

smartctl: command not found

εχω εναν δισκο οποτε δινω και την σωστη εντολη πιστευω!!!

γενικα ο σκληρος ειναι σε καλη κατασταση? η εχω προβλημα

[the_eye]

Δεν μπορούμε να βγάλουμε συμπέρασμα από την φωτογραφία.
Κάνε εγκατάσταση το smartctl

[airmaik]

μου βγαζει αυτο

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smartctl 5.40 2010-07-12 r3124 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Momentus 5400.5 series
Device Model: ST9160310AS
Serial Number: 5SV44Y6X
Firmware Version: 0303
User Capacity: 160,041,885,696 bytes
Device is: In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is: 8
ATA Standard is: ATA-8-ACS revision 4
Local Time is: Mon Sep 5 21:49:30 2011 EEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
See vendor-specific Attribute list for marginal Attributes.

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status: (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status: ( 0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 723) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities: (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities: (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability: (0x01) Error logging supported.
General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 62) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time: ( 2) minutes.
SCT capabilities: (0x103f) SCT Status supported.
SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
SCT Feature Control supported.
SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 116 098 006 Pre-fail Always - 114960021
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0003 099 099 000 Pre-fail Always - 0
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 098 098 020 Old_age Always - 2559
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 036 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 076 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 45218158
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 3321
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0013 100 100 097 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 098 098 020 Old_age Always - 2256
184 End-to-End_Error 0x0032 100 100 099 Old_age Always - 0
187 Reported_Uncorrect 0x0032 001 001 000 Old_age Always - 200
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032 100 093 000 Old_age Always - 253
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 047 041 045 Old_age Always In_the_past 53 (0 172 53 49)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1372
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 158
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 071 071 000 Old_age Always - 59522
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 053 059 000 Old_age Always - 53 (0 10 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered 0x001a 050 037 000 Old_age Always - 114960021
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0012 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0010 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x003e 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
ATA Error Count: 232 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
CR = Command Register [HEX]
FR = Features Register [HEX]
SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
ER = Error register [HEX]
ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 232 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1422 hours (59 days + 6 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 00 be 7f 61 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x00617fbe = 6389694

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 80 b3 7f 61 e0 00 01:22:14.021 READ DMA EXT
25 00 80 33 7f 61 e0 00 01:22:14.017 READ DMA EXT
25 00 80 b3 7e 61 e0 00 01:22:14.013 READ DMA EXT
25 00 80 33 7e 61 e0 00 01:22:14.010 READ DMA EXT
25 00 80 b3 7d 61 e0 00 01:22:14.006 READ DMA EXT

Error 231 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1342 hours (55 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 00 c3 7f 61 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x00617fc3 = 6389699

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 02 c3 7f 61 e0 00 00:07:15.081 READ DMA EXT
25 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:15.066 READ DMA EXT
35 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:15.058 WRITE DMA EXT
25 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:15.054 READ DMA EXT
25 00 01 00 00 00 e0 00 00:07:15.006 READ DMA EXT

Error 230 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1342 hours (55 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 00 c1 7f 61 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x00617fc1 = 6389697

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 02 c1 7f 61 e0 00 00:07:12.667 READ DMA EXT
25 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:12.666 READ DMA EXT
25 00 01 00 00 00 e0 00 00:07:12.622 READ DMA EXT
35 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:12.622 WRITE DMA EXT
25 00 01 00 00 00 e0 00 00:07:12.615 READ DMA EXT

Error 229 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1342 hours (55 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 00 bf 7f 61 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x00617fbf = 6389695

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 02 bf 7f 61 e0 00 00:07:10.242 READ DMA EXT
25 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:10.241 READ DMA EXT
35 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:10.241 WRITE DMA EXT
25 00 08 0f 56 10 e0 00 00:07:10.240 READ DMA EXT
25 00 01 00 00 00 e0 00 00:07:10.239 READ DMA EXT

Error 228 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 1342 hours (55 days + 22 hours)
When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

After command completion occurred, registers were:
ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
40 51 00 be 7f 61 00 Error: UNC at LBA = 0x00617fbe = 6389694

Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC Powered_Up_Time Command/Feature_Name
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- ---------------- --------------------
25 00 02 bd 7f 61 e0 00 00:07:07.652 READ DMA EXT
25 00 02 0b 56 10 e0 00 00:07:07.651 READ DMA EXT
35 00 02 0b 56 10 e0 00 00:07:07.651 WRITE DMA EXT
25 00 02 bb 7f 61 e0 00 00:07:07.650 READ DMA EXT
25 00 02 09 56 10 e0 00 00:07:07.650 READ DMA EXT

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Aborted by host 20% 3313 -
# 2 Short offline Interrupted (host reset) 00% 3311 -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN MIN_LBA MAX_LBA CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
1 0 0 Not_testing
2 0 0 Not_testing
3 0 0 Not_testing
4 0 0 Not_testing
5 0 0 Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

[the_eye]

Ναι έχει ένα πρόβλημα με τις κεφαλές.

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7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f 076 060 030 Pre-fail Always - 45218158

Έχει χτυπηθεί ο δίσκος ή σου έχει πέσει εν λειτουργία ;

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191 G-Sense_Error_Rate 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 1372

[airmaik]

κοιτα επειδη ειμαι γεολογως και στα εργοταξια που τον ειχα ειχε πάρα,μα παρα πολύ σκονη,και συγκεκριμενα στο εργαστήριο που τον ειχα ειχαμε μεγαλο προβλημα με την σκονη,μπορει να εγινε τιποτα απο αυτο?

δεν θυμάμαι να μου εχει πεσει ποτε,απλα πριν κανενα χρονο που τον ειχα μονο με τα windows για κανενα3μηνο δεν μου ανοιγε καν ο υπολογιστης,και τοτε τον ανελαβε ενας απο την δουλεια υπεύθυνος για τους υπολογιστές και τον επανέφερε,απλα μου ειχε πει και αυτος οτι εχει προβλημα ο σκληρος

παντως με την πρωτη ευκαιρια σκεφτομαι να του κανω μια αλλαγη να τελειωνω με αυτο

ευχαριστω φιλε παντως